The Mail quotes a source as saying of William and Kate: “Since their split she has taken to hanging out at all his favourite bars which has irritated him a little, even though the break-up remains perfectly amicable.”

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Name: Kate	Comment: Vreston-- I really do enjoy your posts.. Have as many of the chocolate covered espresso beans you wish - your views are interesting and I enjoy your presentation.. eloquent I would say! Cheers ....

Name: vreston	Comment: Kate, for giving you a laugh. There's something to be said for the momentum fueled by a handfull of dark chocolate covered expresso beans and 110+words/minute in the middle of the night. I'll be taking a breather for a while. Cheers!

Name: Kate

Comment: Vreston --- Should Carole Middleton read this columns and be thinking the thought you mentioned, my two are just fine. They are not sitting on street corners looking for handouts, love what they do, and paid their mortgages,pay their bills, and are raising their children in loving homes....I'm sure CM also raised her girls in loving homes.. I realize as well, to each their own, when they select their life style and if being a figure on the bar scene is what Kate has chosen to do with her life, sobeit.. she appears to have everything going for her and to settle for less then , what I ( and others on the forum) see as her potential, is a waste.. Must go.. have to work for my gas money!! For your English composition!!

Name: vreston

Comment: Kate - do realize that I'm not in a total disagreement with you, just the fact that you've consistently brought up the Tom Ford job specifically - what you said in your response is unquestionably fair and a valid opinion (not to imply by any means that anyone's validation is required). Your niece sounds terrific and completely worthy of your (anyone's!) pride and praise - though there are thousands (if not millions) of women her age with ambitions or interests quite different. Everyone is different - not everyone is that adventurous or career oriented. On a much smaller scale - many years ago, after a bad break up around the same time, I stayed home and binged on ice cream and my best friend (with a very similar temperament) went sky diving 10 times in one week-end. Both were equally effective. This is not in defense of Kate, just a fact. I can relate more to your niece's than to Kate's outlook. I have old friends whom I respect, who could not relate and picked their aventures and lives very close to home and are still very happy - living just miles from their childhood homes. (BTW - Chelsy's extended trip, several homes, cars, etc are all her parents' doing - paid with an extroadinary wealth built on an blood industry that I personally find cruel and abominable, though not her fault of course. The year-long travel was not in response to a a break up - but a graduation gift from her parents. What she does with her education still remains to be seen.) Do I wish that Kate had more ammo for those who fault her for not having 'done' more since graduation - of course. That is only a proper gage of her 'worth' if we are accurate in the assumption that she actually wants to be a 'career' woman in a structured office environment. If she is biding her time until she meets her husband and then raise a family instead of an office job, that' not a total snub either. (If I were Carole Middleton reading these columns, my first resonse would be, 'Thank you for paying such close attention to my daughters, have you focused on yours and are they up to your standards? I'm happy with my children - feel free to worry about yours.") There are many women who'll be first to challenge anyone who wouldn't call a stay at home motherhood choice a 'career' in its own right. Time will tell. To each her own, that's all.Perhaps, the on-going debate of Kate's career aspirations is more indicative of the the same argument about what women with good educations should do and choices they make - both highly-charged and with as many opinions as there are people of both genders.

Name: Kate

Comment: Vreston -I do realize just what "rumors" are and how they can take root and seemingly become a truth! Somehow, I would have retained much more respect and admiration for Kate, had she made a huge move and alteration in her life, then her continuing haunting the night clubs she and William use to go to! It would have said more about her, had she quietly, behind the scenes, began to create a more substantial character by doing charity, by taking a position of sorts in another country, even going on a world trip as Chelsy has done! I have a niece, who has just taken a position in London, moving from California to do so. She has a first rate job, meeting a new circle of friends, and enjoying the adventure. She has also lived and worked in Scotland and France. She is extrememly attractive and intelligent.Her letters to the editor have been printed many times in the NEW YORK Times as well as Vanity Fair...She has many dimensions to her personality, and she also enjoys the night clubs periodically.. If Kate had an ounce of gumption to lead and learn from life and enjoy the experiences of this type, I would take my hat off to her! Instead this girl who has had the opportunity of meeting people in high places, and doors have and still would open for her, has decided to widdle her time away night clubbing in the same places as Wm and his friends. I would have thought more of her, then them ( lazy bunch!) had she taken a different route in her life.

Name: vreston

Comment: Kate - nowdays, 'There was an article' does not a fact make - may we all agree on that one, at least? There is a whole industry based entirely on rumors. There were also articles on K&W married, engaged, married already, back together.... etc. A rumor, ANY RUMOR, is easily picked up and is around the world in a week - often based on the search engine stats alone. Unlike others, this one was a blip. When the first article written by the Daily Mail concerning Kate's alleged Tom Ford job starts with 'picking up on a Vogue rumor', there is little more than a few snippets flying through the wires. Incidentally Tom Ford is not just a 'man' but an industry on to himself as the former lead designer for YSL and Gucci and is known for his flamboyance. To judge someone as weak or clingy for decline of a position never offered seems a bit extreme. So is an expectation that after a traumatic even one may actually chose to stay close to one's family rather than make more drastic changes - all people handle things differently - London haunts aside, Kate seems to handle hers exactly like a typical metropolitan 25 year old - one may not approve, but hardly atypical. Frankly, Mahiki, Mayfair (sp?) and others really should be paying her or letting her drink for free - she's brought them more publicity than any professional celbrities. I'm sure they are very pleased that she's stayed around after going there for the previus several years. On the other hand, now we can all claim to have turned down an offer from Tom Ford for 'personal reasons', substantiation unnecessary (in my case, my rumor was likely started by a 'close personal friend' or our cat and I turned him down because I never forgave him for the Vanity Fair cover) - so it's not a total loss.On another point - the public 'dropping' of Kate by William (assumption that it was not a mutual decision?) - how would he do that privately, especially after the preceeding 6 mo's? I didn't think that was an option - with W who he is and in a 5 year relationship (including the platonic friend time)- as Joanne once reminded us, longer than his parents'. Just asking? It's valid to question her judgement in not starting grad school or going to work full time immediately after college (although it's still a personal choice if one has the means). On the other hand, some of us work too much and not take enough vacations, and enjoy life more - even if we should and have the means to do so. That's a bigger travesty and one have a way to control and no one else to blame.

Name: Donovan

Comment: These articles and comments about Kate Middleton are utterly ridiculous. Of course Kate and William have the same friends, after all they were a couple for 4 years!! The immature and childish remarks from people "in the know", mostly William's up-sucking friends, about Kate, would be best not repeated. Kate has a right to go where she wants, with whom she wants and when she wants...as does William. It is time to leave Kate alone and let her get on with her life. Same goes for William. Continued articles about Kate To live and let live

Name: Kate

Comment: Amity... There was an article and it even gave the name of the company( man's name) who was offering her the position... Had there been such a job offer, I would have thought to get a change of pace, away from the scene in London, would be an attractive offer. It does not mean Kate is being run out of the country, merely , since she was publicly dropped by William and she opted to take the position ( if there had been one), it would show she is moving on with her life . Many younger people live and work abroad and see it as an adventure. Now Kate is still in London, and as I see, haunting the nite spots she and William once went! For someone who had put a restraining order against the photography media, she appears to be enjoying the spotlight.. I feel sorry for her, if all she wants to do is remind William and the world, she is available!

Name: justine

Comment: What ever happened to the "I want my privacy" attitude from Kate? The I'll sue you for everything if you take that picture attitude. After the break-up, "all" that went down the Middleton drain. It's like looking at two-face. I'm getting the idea that while dating William she showed us something very plastic, an image that she thought the public would "greatly approve". Now, she's a totally different person, sucking in all the media attention and honestly looking very tacky while doing it. My, what a difference a month makes..we now see her true colors and to be frank, colors that scream out "TOP POSER"! Thank you, Ms. Middleton for fooling the public.

Name: vreston	Comment: Monika - always well put. Amity - I've wondered the same about the job comment. Nothing ever offered, confirmed or even brought up beyond one article.

Name: Amity	Comment: Why are people still talking about how Kate should have moved to NYC? I live in NYC, and I always thought the rumors of a job offer in NYC were pure speculation by a press eager to invent a new story line. Also, why should she be run out of the country just because she broke up with her boyfriend? How cruel and ridiculous!

Name: exploora

Comment: Well we have no idea how much work Kate does for the family business. That is always the way, in a family business, there is a fine line between employee, family member, or even lover. I suspect Kate is good at buying because she had some direct or indirect experience with her parents business. My uncle had a business, where his wife did bookkeeping and the typing. They actually took a computer course together, where he expected her to do the typing, but not once did he ever claim her as an empoyee, so she was left without her own pension, etc etc. This happnes all the time. Often a family business is that, a family business. I thought the man she was "going out with" was a little short for her, what ever that means. He might be very nice, and reasonably possibly not a groper. So how about the foot wear, are those "boots" hiding underneath her trousers?? I guess Kate learned the hard way to not wear a short dress, if she is going to have to get in and out of a car.

Name: M-M	Comment: Several other posters have made similar comments -but it seems clear to me that Fleet St are so fed-up with the stream of spin that issues from C/H and supporters of Camilla , that they prefer to write about and photograph the 'coulda been' Royal Kate Middleton . She is no more (or less ) a Royal than Camilla's children , and far prettier

Name: Kate	Comment: Geez - we still have Kate in the picture..!! I thought she would have been in NY, NY by now, after taking up the job offer she was given.. Regarding this young man in the photos with her, does he not appear to be several inches shorter then she? Trust me,Kate is NOT dating this person!!

Name: Amity

Comment: When I first read this in The Sun, my initial reaction was that William has probably set her up with some of his friends to keep her occupied so that he can go out and do as he pleases. If she is publicly seen with other men first, then that would give him complete license to go out with other women without seeming like a cad (in the eyes of the public). If she is trying to make him jealous, then that is really stupid because it could just as easily backfire. Regardless, I think that she is at her peak right now, and for her own sake she should take advantage of her current popularity to find and fall in love with an amazing guy who can make her happy for the rest of her life. Specifically, she should probably keep her heart open for a wonderful man in his late 20s/early 30s who can take care of her, fulfill her needs, help her grow emotionally and professionally, and is ready to build a life with her. It seems that the guys her own age may not be quite ready to settle down, and she would just be wasting her time with them. Just my two cents.

Name: colleen gagnon	Comment: Looks to me like an attractive young lady getting on with life, I wonder if William is doing the same. I cant help but mention that William seems to looks more and more like Charles even his mannerism I dont see that cute grin he used to have. Wonder if anyone else thinks this.

Name: vreston

Comment: I would agree on one point – the fact that a former girlfriend attracts more comments than members of the RF is telling, but only because so many people used to like them a gread deal more and they did a fine job deconstructing this on their own. There were 20 very long and well written articles about others since the last "Kate" post – hardly a ‘shrine’ – expectedly more frequent in the month or so following the break up. Also, several people who don't care for the Middletons asked for a separate coverage of the 'Wisteria' article and Joanen obliged. Admiration is a drastically different animal than simple curiosity and is likely to be the case for most readers, IMO. As someone who is not averse to reading about Kate (here or other places) I would prefer to speak for myself through my comments. Joanne explained her reasons for the posts and most agreed that she owed no explanation – it’s her site and we get to pick and choose from what interests. There are many sites devoted to Kate specifically - this one, however, is not one of them.

Name: M-M

Comment: Only one thing you can be sure of - Kate has deliberately chosen to appear , several times at least , at Mahiki and Boujis - both places where William can normally be found . She has also so far confined her escorts to her sister , her GFs , and William's male friends or connections . What this all indicates I don't know . As with William himself several interpretations are possible about her intentions and motives .

Name: Monika

Comment: We read about Kate because many of us want to read about her. The way she has conducted herself during and after the relationship has earned her the admiration of many of us. We are very lucky to have access to a site that reports the latest news on royals and those associated with them. I’m sure Joanne too must ask herself “why” every now and then after she reads some of the less than kind comments, but fortunately for us she continues to put in the time and effort it takes to keep this site current 24/7. THANK YOU JOANNE! Kate is an educated, attractive, and well-mannered young lady. If the RF did not like this girl, she would never have been accepted into the fold as she was in such a public way. I don’t think anyone here is calling her the “perfect modern 21st century woman” as one of the posters commented. As a matter of fact, Prince William will never be able to marry someone who is or strives to be the CEO of a multi-million dollar corporation. He needs a partner who will love and support him and be able to handle the unique pressure of a f/t, high-profile role that his bride will automatically inherit. This is quite a tall order in today’s modern society. That is precisely why, in my opinion, Kate is so popular. She is modern enough to be William’s Princess, but she is not so modern that she would be averse to all the traditional requirements of the monarchy that are a non-negotiable part of the package. As for Kate bar-hopping, etc, oh please. Funny how she is criticized for not being modern and yet when she does something modern, like go to a club, she is criticized for that too! And, as for her “mooching off her parents,” yes her parents bought an apartment in Chelsea. Diana also had an apartment that was paid for by her family’s money and she also worked p/t. No one accused her of mooching or being lazy. Kate’s parents stood by her during her relationship with William, just as any proud mom and dad would if it was their daughter in a relationship with Prince William.

Name: Cindy	Comment: Opps - I should have used the word supine instead of prone in my previous post.

Name: Claudius	Comment: This guy that Kate has been seen with is just a family friend and nothing else. William's friends look out for Kate because Kate is still part of William's life and they might reunite over the summer. They are also going on vacation together so that is just a friend.

Name: Karmen	Comment: she's NOT royal, nor is she dating anyone royal... so therefore she should IMO not be covered on this site. But I do have to agree that it seems all this girl knows is how to party and get her picture taken. And from these quotes it sure seems as if William doesn't trust her much. Maybe this split wasn't as amicable as the ever-loving-pro-kate press would have us believe.

Name: Cindy

Comment: Kay ~ some royal watchers have fallen 'out' of love with actual royals and in love with Kateums. lol This site has become another place to hail the Great Kate, the almost Princess and Queen of England! Weird I know, they seem to think she epitomizes the perfect modern 21st century woman. Strange how someone who mooches off her parents and claws her way up the social ladder in a 'prone possition' can be considered modern! lol There are women in the world worth admiring, but some prefer Kate - it boggles the mind

Name: night	Comment: Joanne thank you for giving me a laugh The headlines are funny check mate who would have guess that his ex would be first out with a new guy. William went out last nigth we're the 30 or more pictures of him ??? Doesn't she do anything else on her weekends other than posing for pictures to make sure she's on 3 or more tabloids.

Name: Kay	Comment: Why are we still hearing about Kate here? She isn't now and never was royal. She's not even dating someone who is royal. It's over.

Name: Cindy	Comment: All she seems to do is go from one bar to the next. Her statement that the break-up was "because of his Daddy" was not discreet and i thought it was very tacky! Thank God William escaped this user!

Name: Joanne	Comment: I've already gone into hiding in anticipation (I'm typing this from behind the sofa). Joanne

Name: vreston	Comment: Shock...horror..she has friends and goes out. The comment that makes me giggle is the "But he needs to be sure." part - he need not worry, Kate's already shown more discretion than the whole RF combined - in the last decade.....can't wait to read the comments.